Hello, a suggestion: when entering the results of a round, I would recommend using the keys 1 for 1-0, 0 for 0-1, and 5 for ½-½ instead of the current keys 1, 2, 3 for 1-0, ½-½, and 0-1 respectively. I find it much more intuitive for a player to type "0" to indicate Black's win rather than "3", which has no correspondence with the result. The key 5 is at least used in other programs, so people are generally more familiar with it. Currently, pressing the "0" key actually writes the result "0-1", but it does not advance to the next game. Even for a referee who enters many results, I think it's more intuitive for them to use 1, 5, and 0. Since these keys are unused anyway, the "p" (patta) and "d" (draw) could also be placed alongside the key 5 to enter a draw.

Hello @Claudio I set up 1 2 3 because two referees told me that with a program (I don't know if it's Swiss-Manager or Vega) the key combination was that.

The 0 is unusable because with some browsers it takes the value from the drop-down menu 0‑1 (so black win). The convenience of having 1 2 3 is that once you get used to it, you can go very fast.

Hello @stefanoloberti, Vega uses 1 5 0 (although in its options it also has the possibility to use 1-2-3, as it used to do once), Swiss‑Manager uses 1-2-3 (in fact, although very common, I consider Swiss‑Manager really impractical with its menus), Vesus uses 1 5 0 (after I strongly recommended it to do so). Forget about the other programs, which may have made unhappy decisions in the past; I assure you that when you run a tournament and players enter results, few think of using 3 to indicate that Black won... on the board, to indicate that the player lost you use 0, not 3. Anyway, it's up to you, the program is yours :) But you'll find many supporters of the 1-5-0!

So 1 for white, 5 for a draw and 0 for black? Thank you very much @Claudio for your suggestions (I don’t even know how to set up the pieces on the board and I’m trying to help my son with the engines but I have problems there too :))

Hello @stefanoloberti, don’t joke—thanks to you! I’m glad to see someone enthusiastically developing in a field that could use a breath of fresh air. These “suggestions” are just details to make an arbiter’s job easier, and to streamline unregulated and often “self‑managed” tournaments where there isn’t necessarily an arbiter at the table (or whoever is playing also runs the tournament, and I assure you there’s a wide underground scene in this state), and players, when they finish a game, go and record their own results; we also have to prevent them from causing damage… and whoever manages the tournament, often under stress (with a room of players waiting for their turn), shouldn’t have to say “I can’t do that” to resolve an emergency caused by a thousand factors (someone who made mistakes by touching the program, someone who entered the wrong result and only notices after the round is finished, someone who notices only when the tournament ends, etc.). The program should allow you to handle every imaginable situation. For example, in your program when you enter the last result and close the tournament to get the standings, what do you do when the guy who thought he was first realizes that his result from the last round was entered incorrectly (maybe he entered it correctly, but then someone writes the opposite result because they thought it was their board…)? Do you say, “I’m sorry, but the tournament is closed!” or would it be better to say, “No problem, I’ll reopen the tournament and enter the correct result, and then regenerate the correct standings!”?

Anyway, yes, the advice is to use 1 for a win and 0 for a loss (much more intuitive; the form shows 0‑1, not 3). The situation with a draw is open, in that often players who go to record their result at the end ask you: “How do I enter a draw?” The 5 has long been a good compromise (it sits between 0 and 1, in the middle of the keyboard and on the numeric keypad, and intuitively makes sense). Personally, I would also accept the keys “p” (draw) and “d” (draw), since pressing them normally does nothing, but that is highly debatable, and it’s not a standard in any program I know.

@Claudio I have developed the marathon section (which, if I'm not mistaken, is something that LTB did last year) by automatically generating QR Codes for players (with their first and last name—a sort of badge). Through this (if the referee has selected the setting), they can enter the result on their own (the referee can also choose whether one player or both are required). I'm currently at the Lugano tournament, and Tommaso just started the match so I can work. I'm on the input settings with 1 2 3.

I’ll let you know and thanks again

@Claudio on your profile page: https://my.chesspairings.org/profilo.php I added the option to configure the keys for quick entry:

so everyone can use their preferred combo. I would never have thought of it without your suggestion

Spectacular, I will definitely pass this information on to whoever handled last year’s marathon organized by us! I imagine Tommaso is your son, a 1884 rated player who has been improving for the past 11 years—nice work, congratulations! :) Today he meets a FIDE‑rated CM, a nice cat to be tamed! But now that I’ve seen the photo, I remember I already met him in Agliè! The world is small…

It was him. Agliè had been having a lot of fun (a bunch of friends and the first FM beaten) and in the morning he had performed well, while in the afternoon not so much because at the catering he hadn't touched any food :)

Great! And you remembered to add it on the insert page, including the link to the profile for configuration!! But when you save from the "Result Insert Keys" it doesn't update; you have to manually refresh the page to see changes... One would expect that when pressing Save the page shows what was saved. In fact if you click Save twice it reverts to what you had before, which is weird! :)

@Claudio there was an issue with the system cache. I removed it and it should be fine now.

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@Claudio If you want to test the team tournament part, let me know and I'll send you an invitation.